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for the cia directorship, hagel to be confirmed to secretary of defense until the white house gives us an accounting. >> bill: i want more -- so he says he wants to know what now, by the way, remember lindsey graham started out by saying, i am not going to -- we are not going to move forward with hagle unless we get the secretary, of state, herself to testify on benghazi. she did. so then, he said, no, we are not going to move forward unless we get leon panetta to come forward. so did john brennan and they have had three freakin hearings on the senate. what more do they want? now lindsey graham says, i want to know minute by minute everything that president obama did the night of the benghazi attack, you know, which is absurd. congress cannot make a demand like that. by the way, maybe they should give us minute by minute what george bush did after the september attacks after he was running around the attacks. >> we know what he was doing for about seven minutes after the attack, reading "my pet goat." lindsey graham says, here, more. >> i am going to ask
doing here? there are various -- the u.s. military and the c.i.a. have used these drones to kill scores of high-level terrorist leaders. but there is a huge downside. it is the innocent civilians that are killed and now, it is a questionable use of them against people who are american citizens and the claim by the executive branch that they can do this. execute an american without any semblance of due process. >> bill: and justify it by saying well, we couldn't capture -- it would be difficult or impossible to capture them. and that they're an imminent threat. when you look in the paper as to what constitutes an imminent threat, it is not really an imminent threat. sometime in the future they might be a threat. pretty scary stuff. >> there is definitely constitutional issues here and whether -- just because this person is in yemen, we can kill them. if they were in the bronx can we kill them? what's the difference there? and also the blowback issue. many, many people believe that the drone attacks in pakistan have enraged the pakistani population against the united states. >> bill: some
and then the chief of staff and was recruited back by president obama to be the head of the cia and then the defense secretary. and yesterday, talking about leaving, he had a hard time telling the staff at the pent pentagon what it meant to him. kind of cracked up a little bit. >> i have a hard time. i got my office is packed up. sylvia is packing at home. i am ready to go. it's like, all right. loose as a goose. >> upse that hagel can't come in and take over right now. he's got one foot out the door. >> office is packed up. house is all palked up. lives on the hill. >> what a career? incredible career. >> that resume doesn't suck. >> no. he was i think maybe 15 years in congress, budget director for the president, white house chief of staff. rears and comes back, head of the cia, head of the defense department. >> you never get board. >> we could never convince leon to run for governor of california. he would have made a great governor. still time, sylvia might say not so fast. tim mac from politico joining us a little bit later. we learned a lot a
operations but are not involved in combat. so the people sit down like at c.i.a. headquarters or in the pentagon with the joystick, killing targets overseas, qualify for a medal of honor. >> really surreal world. >> bill: it is isn't it? >> the air force has these bases in colorado are like a field of trailers or container -- boxes. and these guys, they have normal lives with wives and kids at home and they drive in the office and get in one of the bunkers, sit behind a computer and spy on them and sometimes kill people in the tribal areas of pakistan or afghanistan. it is a really bizarre situation. >> bill: then go home and barbecue chicken for the kids. >> there is a situation comedy brewing in there somewhere. a tv show. >> bill: how did it go at the office today hon? well, i killed five. no. it really troubles me. so many aspects of it. we've talked a lot about president obama's state of the union. i want to get to that with you. and about marco rubio's response, particularly the water bottle. nobody is talking about poor rand paul. there was a third state of the union, r
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